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created by it. This law must ad upon all such things as it finds them.

Sir W. Lemon spoke shortly in reply, and after some farther conversation between Mesirs. Bouverie, Lloyd, Banks, Sir W. Young, and Mr. Pilt, it was settled by the committee, that the valuation of the profi's arising from manors, woods, &c. thould be taken upon a fair average, to be confided to the commillioners; but that in the case of inines, the valuation should be taken on an average not exceeding five years.

The next case, the 11th, which related to estimating the income of tenants of lands, tenements, and hereditaments, produced also a very long and defultory conversation between Meflrs. Wilberforce, Banks, the Solicitor General, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and other Gentlemen; the result of which was, that the rule respecting hereditaments let at rackrents was amended by the committee to the following effect: that the value of lands let at a less rent than three hundred pounds per ann. should be taken at a rate, not lower than onehalf of the amount of the rent, nor higher, than the threefourths of the same. And in cases where the rent is 2001. or upwards, the calculation shall not be made at less than the three-fifths of such amount, nor above three-fourths of the fame.

The twelfth care being arrived at,

The Chancellor of the Exchequer, after remarking the lateness of the hour, represented to the committee the improbability of getting through the remainder of the schedule, and the proposed amendments, at any reasonable time that night, he therefore suggested the propriety of reporting progress, and fitting again ihe next day.

A Mort conversation here ensued between Mr. Wigley, and Mr. Pitt, respecting the future progress of the bill, in confequence of the former wishing to know whether in was intended to receive the report the next night, should the bill be gone through

The Speaker observed, that, regularly, the report could not be made for the purpose of taking it into consideration on the same day the committee concluded its sitting : it might, however, be received pro forma, for the purpose of adjourning its consideration to a future day.

The result was, that it was understood the report should be received the next night, in the above way, by which the bill, with the amendments, could be reprinted and issued out to VOL. I. 1798. Rr.


the members in due time previous to its farther consideration on the day fixed upon that night.

The Houfe then resumed, and the chairman reported progress. The committee was directed to fit again this day.

VOLUNTEER CORPS. Mr. Huskison presen: ed a bill to exempt persons serving in the volunieer corps from being ballotted for the supplementary militia, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time the next day.

Mr. Il igley rose to observe that the bill being one of some importance, and no particular reason existing for its being speedily carried into effect, it should not be hurried through the House. He did not think it very material whether or not it was read a second time the next day, but he was of opinion, that as the measure required some consideration, particularly as by it a number of persons would be taken from the parochial ballots, that proper time should be allowed for discussing it, in the course of its subsequent progress.

On account of the lateness of the hour, the Chancellor of the Exchequer then proposed to defer the consideration of the new clauses till the next day, which was agreed to.

The bill is to be printed and delivered to the Members on Monday, and to be taken into further consideration on Wednesday.

Adjourned at half past twelve o'clock.


Sir Francis Burdett

W. J. Denison.
Sir Francis Baring

M. A. Taylor
Hon. E. Bouverie

C. C. Weltern


H, C. Combe

G. Tierney.


SATURDAY, DEC. 22. The royal affent was given by commission to the three million loan bill, and the land tax redemption amended bill.

The Cape of Good Hope neutral trade bill, and a naturalization bill were brought up from the House of Commons, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Friday next. The second reading of Ricketts's divorce bill, with the

hearing hearing of counsel and evidence thereon, was fixed for Friday next.

The confideration of the standing orders respecting private bills, was postponed from Wednesday until Friday next.

The House adjourned to Friday.

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SATURDAY, DEC. 22. Mr. N. l'anfittart brought up the report of the committee on the British herring-fishery. Ordered to be laid on the table, and to be printed.

Mr. Ryder moved, That the Acts of his present Majesty, relative to the establishinont of a Court of Judicature in Newfoundland, be read, which being done, he moved for leave to bring in a bill to revive and continue the said acts. Granted.

Mr. Rose brought up the report of the annual Indemnity Bill, which was agreed to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time on Wednesday next.

The bill for exempting volunteer corps from being ballotted in the militia was read a second time, and ordered to be cominiited to a committee of the whole House on Wed. nesday.

TREATING ACT. Lord Belgrave said, that for his own consistency, and for respect to the House, he thought it proper to give notice, that early after the holidays he should call the attention of the House to a subject which he had brought before it last year, and which had received its sanction, but which was rejected by the Lords. He meant the subject of treating at clesions. He knew not whether he should propose the measure again in the way of a bill, or in the shape of a resolution, but something of that sort he should certainly propose after the holidays. It was not, with him, so much a matter of importance what the regulation was, as that there ihould be some regulation, for the great point was to remove the uncertainty which accompanies legal opinions and decisions upon that subject.


The Chancellor of the Exchequer moved the order of the


day for the House to proceed in a committee on the Income Bill.

Mr. Tierney asked the minister whether it was his intention to bring on the confideration of the report on Wednesday? It could not be in the hands of Gentlemen until that day, and therefore there would be no ume to consider it until Thursday at the leaft, for Christmas day was no day of business. He was not speaking for himself, for he wanted no time, but there were oihers in a different situation, who had gone in. to the country, who did not care to attend the detail of the measure in the committees, but who wanted to see the whole printed, and who wished to speak upon the subject once for all. An hon. Friend of his he knew in particular to have been gone into the country, and who wilhed to speak upon this subject after the report was made, but he could not be prepared for that purpose without seeing what sort of a thing the bill was when the committee had done with it, and which he could not learn by post before Thursday. Under these impressions he hoped he was not asking too much of the goodness of the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he begged that the report might stand for Friday, and the third reading of the bill for Monday. It was said, indeed, that all the proceedings on the bill would be ready for delivery on Monday, but that could hardly be the case. It was now Saturday night, and he did not presume that the printers would labour on Sunday. He might, indeed, be justified in desiring the bill to be postponed altogether until after the holidays, but that he did not press; he only asked for a day or two, which might very well be granted, especially when the House was so thin.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, he wished the bill to be discussed upon the report, or tipon the third reading. There was no surprise to be complained of in this case, for it was well known that all the bill was gone through except the cafes annexed to the schedule, which could not be expected to occupy much time ; after which the new clauses were to be produced, and, as the whole was expected to be printed, there was nothing very remarkable in seeing the House was but thinly attended. He thould be happy to accommodate any Gentleman, but it must be recollected, not only that the convenience of that House, but also of another House of legislature, ought to be attended to, and it was now clear that they could not enjoy the holidays until the bill was discussed, or else it must be put off till a very inconvenient season. He


stood in the same situation as the hon. Gentleman, for he had no personal convenience to accommodate, nor did he see why the hon. Gentleman, fo laudably diligent himself as a member of Parliament, could have any fellow feeling for seceders of any kind; and indeed the Gentleman to whom he alluded was only a qualified seceder, who, although he did not chufe personally to attend the House, was yet willing to receive intelligence of its proceedings by post. He expected the bill and all the clauses to be ready for delivery on Monday.

Mr. Tierney observed, that the first payment of the bill was not until the fifth of June, and therefore there was time for the operation of the bill.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer observed, that the reason afligned by the hon. Gentleman for delay was a very good one for expedition in this measure, for the very.idea of fixing the first

payment under the bill so far off as the fifth of June, implied that between the passing of it, and the first payment, there ought to be considerable time, and therefore there ought to be as little delay in the progress of the bill as possible; and the truth indeed was, that on account of various arangements, of appointing first and second commissioners, making out lists, examining returns, clafling them, and various other business preparatory to the first payment, the time between that and pafing the bill, would not, with all the diligence the legislature could use, be thought too long, and therefore he could not agree to any delay in this case.

The question was then put, and the House went into a committee upon the bill,

In that part of the trade clause which gave the trader an option of returning the income of a year, or an average of three years,

Mr. H. Thornton said it was the object of the bill that, if possible, a man who had a fluctuating income should pay to the exigencies of the state in the same proportion as the person who enjoyed a stated income. To prevent evasion, he proposed, that when a person had once made his eledion, whether he should pay according to the full amount of profit within the preceding year, or for an average of three years, he should not be at liberty afterwards to vary the election he had made. On which,

Mr. Alderman Combe said, that he certainly must object to that alteration ; for it went to an entire departure from that principle of alleviation which he always thought that clause


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