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means to "derive wisdom from it," and that, my friends, is all that St. Chrysostom meant in saying, "And with one mind they derived wisdom from the Scriptures;" which proves most clearly that there could be no 1 other church then in existence but the Catholic Church, because they derived wisdom from it with one mind. The moment you introduce, on the contrary, the Rule of Faith laid down by my friend, every man is taught to interpret for himself, and it is an utter impossibility that they should "philosophize with one mind," because no person will come to the same deduction.

"which I heartily and most readily throw over into his garden.”[Laughter.] Dr. Geddes was branded as a heretic while he lived; we rejected him from our communion, and have no respect for his memory now that he is dead. Then comes the learned gentleman's long and elaborate defence of the iniquitous translations of the Bible, which I pointed out to you, where Paul says, "Cannot I take about with me a woman, as the other apostles ?" And as my friend endeavoured to perplex your understandings and minds, I shall endeavour to render everything extremely clear to you, My learned friend then calls my and to show you that no fault, no attention to King James's Bible, odium whatever, falls on our Cathowho appointed so many learned men lic translation of the Bible. Certo attend the translation of it. tainly the word means, originally, And why did he do it?-Because "woman." It is applied to the you are told that the Bible which blessed mother of our Saviour. The was in use among the common Saviour says woman, which there people was so full of corruptions. means mother. In other places it Therefore, gentlemen, when the means wife. We all know that. grand Catholic Church was at an But mark, my friends, it means end in this country, it appears King likewise woman, and by us Catholics James thought proper to give a and Protestants alike it is transbetter translation of the Bible, in lated woman in several books of the consequence of the innumerable Bible. We all agree except upon gross mistranslations that defiled it one unfortunate passage, where they in Protestant translations before happened to know-and in that that period. What a Rule of Faith, the depth of their cunning and their I again say, must that have been! guilt consists-where they hapand what a Rule of Faith is that pened, I say, to know that it means Bible in which, even if you could simply woman, and not wife, since prove its authenticity, in which there St. Paul himself tells us that he was are such innumerable mistransla- unmarried. 1 Cor. vii. 7, 8:-" For tions! My learned friend then, in I would that all men were even as I his usual happy manner, in referring myself. But every man hath his to our authors (though I thought proper gift of God, one after he had been "sickened" by the this manner and another after that. ineffable disdain with which I re- I say, therefore, to the unmarried plied to Dupin), brought forward and widows, it is good for them if Dr. Geddes, as a man who lavished they abide eren as I." They, the many praises on the English trans-Protestant translators, knew, therelation of the Bible. I have the fore, that St. Paul meant not to pleasure to tell my learned friend allude to a wife, he telling us with that "he is a weed," (though I do his own mouth that he had none; not like to speak ill of the dead) and yet, notwithstanding this their

paraphrasts of the Bible; I want real solid translation, and I say that no man can commit such an enormity without bringing down upon him

knowledge of his unmarried state, otwithstanding the ancient translation of the Latin Vulgate before their eyes translating it accurately woman, they had the incredible self the curse pronounced upon the audacity to translate it into English, profaners of the sacred word of to their deeply-branded and eternal God. infamy, in the following manner:- Let my learned friend show some1 Cor. ix. 5: "Have we not power thing like this in our Sextine Bible. to lead about a sister, a wife, as instead of "the little slips and well as other apostles, and as the errors of mortality." But let him brethren of the Lord and Cephas?" not think I will permit him to where the apostle most evidently creep out of the difficulty into means, according to the confession which he has plunged upon such of many Protestant divines, those easy terms. No, my friend must devout women who, after the man- bring solid, ponderous argument, not ner of Jewry, served the preacher shallow and superficial sophistry! with necessaries, of which kind Again, my friend alludes to the many followed Christ, and sustained word enλvorews. He labours under him and his followers with their a mistake here, voluntary or insubstance. Oh! is not this, my voluntary. He imagines that I Protestant friends, too bad-ay, is upbraided the English Bible for it not too deliberately courting the translating it "interpretation." I maledictions imprecated in the sacred did not. But I merely wished to volume upon the head of him who point out to my friend that it was a shall thus deal treacherously in cor- much stronger word; that it meant rupting its genuine, meaning, and " disentanglement ;" for he knows causing thousands, if not millions, very well that ours is translated in to stumble? My friends, the Pro- the same way with his own. And I testant Bible alone furnishes me am going to advert to another where with an adequate expression to cha- your translation agrees more or less racterize such indefensible, such with our own, but still I maintain unqualified villany-namely, by call- that they are both wrong; that is, ing it a perversion of the sacred that they do not come up to the text,-most" desperately wicked." strength and forcible power of the And now, my friends, after this original. It is where Christ said, exposition of your Parliamentary investing Peter with his grand Bible, come we to another, where primacy, Touave та проßата pov, St. Paul says, "It is better to He says this to no other apostle, marry than to burn; but if they do but only to Peter. This strong not contain, let them marry" but expressive Greek word means, the Protestant has inserted, "if "Shepherd thou," or "shepherdize, they cannot." I told you the word my sheep." The grand commission, cannot was ov dvvavrat ("if they therefore, the plenitude of authority cannot contain.") Now, if it were thus given by Christ to Peter, runs "cannot," it would be this long thus: "Feed lambs." my Shep word, dvvavtal. I ask my learned herdize my sheep." "Feed my friend, Is it so-viz. ov dvvavraι? sheep." (John xxi. 15, 16, 17.) No, he will tell me, it is not there. But the English translation enMy friend will perhaps say it is feebles the middle verse by a tautoparaphrastical, but I do not want | logy which our Saviour never uttered,

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taught men, thoroughly acquainted with the traditions of the apostles and the Church; but the grave charge brought against them is that they were unacquainted with Latin, and received the Gospel orally and traditionally, and not by the Bible.

rendering it feed, instead of shep-your different sects impiously sunherdize. dered from us; you "went out of My learned friend has used an us;" you found out a religion for expression which certainly does not yourselves. You took up the Bible savour of "the milk of Christian as your Rule of Faith; and you still charity." He says of our mission-call it the Rule of Faith, instead of aries who went into every part of holding with our Rule of Faith. It the world shedding their blood in is not one Rule of Faith: or, if so, the cause of our adorable Redeemer, how happens it that your sects are that the fruit of all their labours diametrically opposed to each other? was but to make their converts but They are variable rules; and no year "ten times more the children of hell passes in this country but it prothan they were before." Oh, my duces a new religion with a new friends, is this language which ought Rule of Faith. to distil from the lips of a Christian My friend alluded next to certain minister? I ask my friend whether priests in the vicinity of the Humhe is in the habit of reflecting ber, who were unacquainted with deeply before he speaks, or whether Latin. These men may be wellhe pours forth a mere torrent of words which he neither knows how to check nor to direct? Surely, no Christian minister of any sect in this room can smile with approbation on such virulence of language used towards their Catholic brethren! What! does the learned gentleman mean to say that Fenelon, But there is not time to answer St. Francis Xavier, St. Francis of all the notes which I have taken Sales, Massillon, Bossuet, and all from my learned friend's speech. the great luminaries of the Catholic I wish to throw the onus probandi Church, were "children of hell ?" on him this evening. I wish my I know that Calvin would call them learned friend, in a clear, lucid so, just as he calls every one who manner, to inform us by what test differs with him as to creed. But he can prove the authenticity of my friend professes to be a Cal- that Bible on which he prides himvinist and yet totally unconnected self, and which he calls his Rule of with Calvin, which is indeed a most Faith. I shall listen very attenextraordinary paradox. The next tively to him, reminding him that kind epithet bestowed on the Ca- I expect argument, and not flashes tholic religion is, that it was "a of oratory. I wish him rather to dark and tremendous apostasy." take for his guide and model the My learned friend knows that we close reasoning of Aristotle or of reproach them with that, from the Lord Bacon, instead of the mode of beginning of their secession to the reasoning so familiar to my learned present day. "They went out from friend, not of Demosthenes, or us;" we did not apostatize from Cicero, but rather of the sophist the Protestant Church. I proved Libanius. to you from the beginning that our ancestors planted the Catholic religion in every region in Europe, and that in the sixteenth century

Again, though I have proved to you so satisfactorily that the fathers are all unanimous on the grand fundamental articles of the Catholic

faith, again he repeats, that they | Saturday evening? These are es are all at variance with one an-sential things! Let my friend prove other." Upon what, I ask, are the procession of the Holy Ghost they at variance?-Why, merely on from the Father and the Son; let the same points that my Catholic him prove the consubstantiality, friends on the right hand and the co-essentiality, of the Son with the left are when they consult the Bible Father and the Holy Ghost. This on various passages of unimport- is the burden I place upon the ance, and deduce from it, as my shoulders of my friend; and if orsfriend does, one one meaning, and tory can effect the desired object, another another. And so have the you will have it in abundance this fathers done; but no father, how- evening. But let us have arguever great, could be called any thing ment. I am tired of the rhetorician but a heretic, who did not agree giving goodly words, I call for the upon the fundamental articles of logician. My friend has to prove the Catholic faith. What is this, the inspiration of that book. He my friends-I am sorry to use the has to prove that it is true which expression, but my friend may his Church asserts, though upon retort it if he likes, and call me a our authority; for he knows wel sophist-but what is it but mere that several books now termed esshadowy sophistry, an attempt spe- nonical were the subjects of long ciously to darken and perplex a debate and disputation in the Capoint of the greatest simplicity, tholic Church for several ages. I by asserting that the fathers do find that the Epistle to the Hebrews not agree with one another? When was doubted in the seventh cerI have opened their volumes, Itury by some persons; and as to have proved to you their most una- Revelations, there is not a learned nimous consent and concurrence man among Protestants that has upon every thing vital in the Ca- written within a century past, who tholic religion. has not doubted the authenticity of that book. But, wiping all that out of the question, the grand burden I place upon the shoulders of my learned friend this evening, is to prove intrinsically the canonicity of that very book, the Bible, which he calls, and is proud so to call, his Rule of Faith-which he calls "his pride and his glory.”

Again, I call on my friend to extricate Protestants from the charge of daring impiety, in keeping the Sabbath on Sunday. What texts of Scripture has he brought to corroborate or sanction his doctrine? Why, merely one- "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day." What is that, my friends? "The Lord's day" is the day of Jehovah. Again, I ask my learned friend, That is all I deduce from it; there How is it, if God meant to instruct must be one Lord's day, and it is mankind by the New Testament, commanded most specifically to be how is it that so many have been kept, and it had been kept for ages. lost? how is it that so many of the There must be something more sub- ancient Testaments have been lost? stantial to overturn the dogma Did our blessed Saviour command than such an ambiguous expression his disciples to write out a Rule as that. If my friend intends to of Faith? did he point out any prove his Rule of Faith, let him text in which he told them to do it? first prove the manner of keeping This, my friends, is a Quaker who the Lord's day from Friday to is speaking a converted Quaker.

[The expiration of the usual hour | cessive priests, who have night after being announced by the chairman, night accompanied him, showed him the learned gentleman concluded to be; but now he renounces the abruptly by saying]-This is written Papal faith, he takes the ground of by a Quaker, a convert within this a sceptic, denies the Bible, and calls month past. upon me to prove the truth of Scripture, the canonicity of its sucRev. J. CUMMING.-I demand, cessive books, and the accuracy my Christian hearers, your most of the authorized translation; and sincere sorrow over the painful having thus disburdened himself, spectacle which my antagonist has having thus cast off the Roman Cathis evening presented before you. tholic Church-its creeds and its You will observe that he felt most remnants of Christianity yet unexjustly and most deeply that the tinguished-and stood on the yet ground on which he stood at the more degrading and ignominious outset had been taken from be- ground of an infidel,-he, erst the neath his feet-he felt that if he Romanist, arrayed now in the poltried to retain it longer he would luted garments of Tom Paine, probe hurled from it without mercy claims infidelity in any of its shapes or help-that if he tried to keep to be right, and Christianity in all the position of a Roman Catholic its forms to be wrong! [Sensation he had not an inch to stand on; we understand Mr. French looked and now what, under such circum- surprised in the meantime.] Monstances, has he had recourse to, strous resource! dreadful superstido you think, in order to prop up tion! painful alternative! requiring the exploded principles which he a man to extinguish all semblances professes to hold? Why, he now and lights of any Christianity in his presents himself before you, hypo- creed and heart, and to abandon all thetically in theory, but truly in claim even to the shattered and fact, in the garb of an infidel, as he flimsy superstition which bears the has by turns in the blasphemous name of Christ, before he can meet robes of a Socinian, and occasion- and confront his adversary, and deally arrayed in the so-called spirit- monstrate PROTESTANTISM to be ualities of a Quaker. He dare not wrong, and Roman Catholicism to meet me as a Roman Catholic: he be right! This is my greatest and must stand before you in the posi- most decisive victory. This is Mr. tion of an infidel; he must forsake French's honest admission-that his own ground-he has practically his creed is indefensible. It really this evening abjured his own Church "speaks volumes" in behalf of the -he has committed an act of eccle- omnipotence of our cause. His siastical suicide, and must now stand conduct to-night, I say, speaks before you an unblushing and un- volumes-it tells you in piercing disguised infidel. If my learned and impressive tones that the Papal opponent be really a Roman Catho- faith, even in my opponent's estilic, I will meet him as a Roman mate, has not one nch of ground Catholic; if an infidel, I will meet whereon to repose its hopes of vichim in that character too. When tory, and that his and its only and I entered on this discussion, I pre-last chance of escape from utter ruin sumed that he was what he pro- is to run for shelter to the subtleties fessed himself to be, and what the of the infidel. My opponent incountenance of the several and suc-voked the patronage of the Arian,

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