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yearly to the Payment of our publick Debts :
That the Advantage of reducing whole Regiments, was apparent to every Gentleman who would make the Calculation ; for by the Establishment of laft Year, a marching Regiment, which confifted of 815 Men, cost the Publick about 15,2171. yearly, so that if a whole Regiment should be reduced, there would be a Saving of 15,2171. a Year. Whereas if an equal Number of private Men only be reduced from that and other Regiments, there would be a Saving to the Publick of the Pay of so many private Men only, which in a Year amounted to but 7,427 1. from whence it is evident, that by a Reduction of sooo Men made by reducing whole Regiments, the Publick would save 149,369 l. year. ly ; whereas, a Reduction of 8000 Men made by the reducing of private Men only, faves but 73,000 l. yearly ; so that the Difference to the Publick was a Saving of 76,369. yearly ; a Saving which ought not to be neglected : That cho', for the firt Year or two, we fould be obliged to iffue near one half of this Sum yearly for Half-pay to the reduced Officers, yet in a few Years they would either die or be incorporated in the standing Corps ; so that we hould foon save this whole Sum yearly.
• That it was not possible for them to find a military Reason why we ought to keep up, and in whose Pay too, a greater" Proportion of Officers in Time of Peace than we did. in Time of War ; and as there was no Military Reason for so doing, People would be apt to suppose it was done for a Civil Reason ; which was a Supposition injurious to his Majesty, or at least to his Ministers; and for that Reason they would in a particular Manner recommend it to an honourable Gentleman on the Floor, ( Sir Robert Walpole ] to reduce whole Corps, inftead of reducing private Men only.'
Then Mr Fox's Motion was agreed to without Debate, and a Committee ordered to draw up an Address accord ingly.
Jan. 16. A Petition of Sir Rowland Winn, Bart. was preRowland Winn, : sented to the House and read, complaining of an undue E. endue Election for lection and Return for the County of York, which was or
dered to be heard at the Bar of the House on the 24th
Jar. 17. The Commons presented their Address of
A Petition of Sir
the County of York.
Address of Thanks
Most Gracious Sovereign,
Anno Geo. II.
1735-36. E your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects,
the Commons of Great Britain in Parliament af- The Commons sembled, return your Majesty our unfeigned Thanks for for his Majestys your molt gracious Speech from the Throne.
Speech. We are truly sensible of your Majesty's early Endeavours to put an End to the War, and can never enough admire the steady Application, with which you pursued that great Work, by the joint Interposition of the good Offices of Your Majesty and the States General. • And it is, with the warmeft Gratitude, we acknowledge Your Majesty's particular Care and Circumspection, in all Your Procoedings not to involve this Nation unnecessarily in the War ; when at the fame Time, Your Majesty shewed You were not insensible of the imminent Danger that threatened the Liberties of Europe, from a long Continuance of it upon so unequal a Foot. A Conduct wherein Your Majesty plainly proved, You equally consulted the immediate Interests of Your People, and that Balance of Power in Europe, upon which the Safety and Commerce of this Nation so much depends : At once saving this Nation from all the present Calamities of War, and trying to avert the future Necessity of its being at last obliged to take its Share and Hazard in them. • We can't but be sensible of Your Majesty's Wisdom and Impartiality, in forming the Plan of Pacification, propo!ed by Your Majesty and the States General, to the Powers engaged in War; which although not immediately accepted by the contending Parties, nor answering the defired Effect by preventing the opening of the Campaign, has been so far adopted, that the most material and essential Parts of it have been agreed to by the Princes originally and principally concerned in this Rupture, and recommended by them to their Allies as Preliminary Articles to a General Pacification. • Upon this happy Turn the Affairs of Europe have taken, we most heartily congratulate with Your Majesty ; and when we consider the Assurances Your Majesty has been graciously pleased to give us, that these Preliminaries do not effentially vary from the Plan of Pacification, concerted by Your Majesty and the States General, and the ready Approbation Your Majesty and the States General have given of them ; a juft Confidence in Your Wisdom, and the Experience we have of Your constant and paternal Care of the true Interest of Your People, through the whole Course of this great and intricate Work, leaves us not the least Room to entertain a Doubt, but that the Preliminary Conditions of this Pacification, are founded, and
Arzog. Geo. II. ' so approved, as will give general Satisfaction; in which Per1735-36
· fuafion we are farther confirmed, by the great Probability • there appears to be of their being accepted and agreed • to, by all the Powers engaged in the War.
· The early Regard Your Majesty has been graciously pleased to shew to the Welfare of Your People, in taking • The first Opportunity, on this great and fortunate Event,
to lighten the Burthen of their Expences, by making a • Reduction of Your Forces, both by Sea and Land, is such ' a Mark of Your Care in consulting their Interest, and of • Your tender Concern for their Ease, that we should be • as unjust to our Gratitude, as to Your Majesty's Good
ness, if we failed to testify the one, and acknowledge the • other, in the strongest and most dutiful Manner. And as we • look upon this, added to all the other Measures of Your
glorious and happy Reign, as a Proof that the Etimates • for the present Year will be proportioned to the Situation . of Affairs, and the Purposes to which they shall be found ' necessary ; so we beg Leave to assure Your Majesty, that • we will chearfully and effectually raise fuch Supplies, as • the Posture of our present happy Circumstances thall re
quire, and sufficient to support the Dignity of the Crown,
and the Honour and Interest of Your Majesty's Subjects • and Dominions.
• And if fuch Motives could want any additional Circum• stance to excite us to fulfil our Duty to Your Majesty and ' our Country, the Reflection on the good Effect the extra• ordinary Supplies, granted the last Year to Your Majesty,
muft have had, in contributing to bring this long-laboured Work co fo happy an Issue, joined to the Consciousness of the Influence Your Majesty's Counsels must ever have in
the Affairs of Europe, whilft a loyal Parliament fews it• felf determined to support the Resolutions of a wise and • cautious Prince, cannot fail to operate with their due
Weight, in making us persevere in our Endeavours to • gtve a Luftre to Your Majesty's Reign abroad, equal, if poffible, to the Happiness we enjoy from it at home.' To this Address his Majesty gave the following Answer.
Gentlemen, His Majesty's An- «
Return you my Thanks for this dutiful and loyal Ad.
dress. I am very well pleased, that my Endeavours “ to restore the publick Tranquility have met with your “ Approbation; and you may be affured, my future Care “ shall be employed, to the utmoft of my Power, to render “ the Peace of Europe perfect and lasting, and to make "' you a fourishing, and happy People."
an. 19. A Petition of the Gentlemen, Clergy, and o- Anno g. Geo. II. Freeholders of the County of Norfolk, whose Names
1735-36. > thereunto subscribed, in behalf of themselves and a Debate on a Pe
Number more of the Freeholders of the said County, ing or mucha plaining of an undue Election and Return for the said due Election for bry, was presented to the House and read ; and a Mo Norfolk being made for hearing the Matter of the said Petiat the Bar of the House on the 26th of February, ohn Hynde Cotton stood up and said, Sir, I am furprised to hear such a Motion made, consider- si J. Hynde Cotthe House, but three Days fince, appointed the York- ton. Petition to be heard at the Bar of this House on the
of next Month, which is but two Days before the now moved for hearing the Norfolk Petition. This
as if the honourable Gentleman imagined, that we go thro' the Yorkshire Petition in two Days; whereas, Opinion, if we examine into it as we ought, and as I we will, it will take us up two Years, or at least the
Time of two Seflions. I confess, Sir, I have not Ionour to be let into the Secrets of any of the YorkPetitioners, but I believe the honourable Gentleman, made the Motion, is thoroughly acquainted with their nd most hidden Designs ; therefore, from his making a Motion as he has been just now pleased to make I must conclude, that the Yorkshire Petitioners are ed to drop their Petition, in case they Thould find elves unable to carry some very remarkable Question rft or second Day. If this be really the Case, the hoble Gentleman was much in the Right to make you
Motion as he has done, with regard to the Norfolk on ; but while we are Members of this House, I we ought upon no Occasion to be directed, in our of voting, by the private Opinion or secret Knowledge her Men; and therefore if the honourable Gentleman of any such Secret with regard to the Yorkshire Pe
he will stand up again and acquaint the House it, that we may have the fame Reason for agreeing Motion, which he had for making it.' Palteney stood up next, and said, ir, am very sorry to find so many Petitions complaining
Ms Pulteney. lue Elections and Returns for Counties ; for the Exof controverting fach Elections is so great, that it is ible any Gentleman can bear to pay the whole out of ivate Fortune. As the Case stands at present, whenhe Election for a County comes to be controverted, <pence mult necessarily be raised by a general Contri
Anno 9 Geo. 11. bution among all the Freeholders of the County ; and it 1735-36.
will not signify much to ease the Landed Gentlemen of a Shilling in the Pound Land-Tax, if by the Controverting of Elections they shall be obliged, once in every Parliament, to tax themselves, perhaps in ten Times that Sum, for supporting the Rights of their Country.
• Injustice may, 'tis true, be sometimes done by the Returning Officers for Counties, as well as by the Returning Officers for Boroughs. But as there are such a great Number of Voters for every County, as almost every Freeholder's Right of voting must be examined into, before the Injustice of the Returning Officer can be detected, and as the naming of that Returning Officer depends entirely upon the Ministers of the Crown, the Election for all the Counties in England is certainly very precarious. And when any Injustice is done, the Discovering of it is so troublesome and expensive, that no private Man can well undertake it : In such Circumstances, it will always be easy for the Ministers of the Crown to appoint who thall be the Knights of any Shire, whenever they have a Mind; for if the Returning Officer makes an undue Return according to their Orders, it is almost impossible to discover the Injustice done by him, so as to subjeet him to the Punishment inficted by Law; and if the Returning Officer should happen to disobey their Orders, it is but making their Candidates petition, by which the Gentlemen rightfully chosen, and duely returned, will be put to such an Expence in defending their Right, chat no Man will thereafter choose to stand for any County in Opposition to the Court-Interest. This Injustice in the Returning Officers, as well as this Expence to the Gentlemen chosen or petitioning, might, in my Opinion, be easily prevented by a few small Amendments to the Laws now in Being for regulating Elections ; for if the Oath to be taken by Freeholders, on occasion of their coming to vote at any Election, were made a little more full and explicit, no Man would dare to take it fallly, because it would be easy to conviệt him of Perjury; and those, against whom he voted, would always be ready to be at the Trouble and Expence of the Prosecution ; in which Case the taking of the Oath might be made final and conclusive as to the Person's Right of voting, so that the Right of any Freeholder to his Vote at an Election would never come to be controverted at the Bar of this House; and then it would be easy to detect the Returning Officers, if they committed any Injustice, and the controverting of Elections would not be near so tedious, troublesome, or expensive as it is at present.
• As the Case now stands, Sir, the Expence of controverting a County Election is moft grievous and most terrible ;