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Anno 8. Gco. 11. Light they were persuaded the House would not agree
To this it was answered by the Members, who were for
the Motion, · That they could not but think that the MoSis W. Wyndiani. tion, as it stood at first, was a very proper Motion, because
it would be much better and more distinct, to have all these Expences fairly and fully stated in one Account, than to have them dispersed in several Accounts, and confounded with a great many other Articles : That this Method of ftating those Expences would be attended with this Advantage', that it would clearly shew to Gentlemen, how sparing his Majesty had been in making use of that unlimited Credit given him the last Session, which would be a great Inducement to that House to renew that Credit, whenever his Majefty should please to demand it: This they thought the honourable Gentlemen would not have obstructed, because it might perhaps be of great Advantage to them upon fome future Occasion ; but as those Gentlemen did not seem to like that Way of stating the Account, therefore they were willing to make the Amendment proposed to their Motion, in order to prevent a Negative's being put upon a Question of such Moment: That they hoped no Expences had been incurred, in consequence of that Vote of Credit, but what appeared upon the several Accounts then before them ; but it would be a great Satisfaction to the House, to have a direct Answer upon that Subject from the Crown ; for cho' they were perioaded that the Gentlemen, who had taken upon them to assure the House that no other Expences had been incurred, or Money iffued, but what were contained in these Accounts, really believed it to be as they had declared ; yet in such Cases that House was not to take an Answer from any Member, for were he the greatest Subject in the Nation, his Word or his Declaration was no Parliamentary Satis. faction, nor could it be taken as fuch: That with respect to the Certificate mentioned, it was in the present Case so far from being absurd, that it was absolutely neceffary : When certain Sums were granted by Parliament, and those Sums appropriated by Parliament to certain Uses, fuch a Certificate would, 'twas true, be quite unnecessary, it would be ridiculous to infift upon any such ; but when an unlimited Credit had been granted by Parliament, and that Credit unlimited likewise as to the Uses it was to be applied to, it was absolutely necessary to have a Certificate in the Man ner mentioned by the honourable Gentlemen, certifying that such Sums, and no more, had been taken up on that Vote of Credit ; and that the Sums fo taken up had been applied to such Uses, and none other : Por, without such a Certificate, it would be impossible for that House to know how the
Accounts of the Nation food ; they could not know but Anno 8. Geo. 11. every succeeding Year might bring a new Demand, to provide for some Expence incurred, or some Debt contracted, in consequence of the unlimited Credit they had formerly given : That therefore it was incumbent upon them, as Members of that House, to demand such a Certificate ; they were bound in Honour, and in Duty to their Constituents, to infilt upon having such a Certificate, and such a Certifi
cate could not be had any other way than by presenting | the Address proposed : That as to the Amendment intended
to be added by the worthy Gentlemen, in order to make theit Question appear ridiculous upon the Journals of that House, it did not at all deter them from insisting upon their Question, nor from insisting upon the Amendment they had proposed : That they had no Cause to suspect, that that House would agree to the Amendment intended by the worthy Gentleman ; but if they had, it would give them no Pain; for whatever that House might do, the World with. out Doors would judge rightly, and would fix the Ridicule where it properly belonged : That they would, upon that Occasion, put the Gentleman in mind of what appeared upon their Journals : They remembered a certain great Man was, in a former Parliament, accused of some very high Crimes, and a Question was actually moved and seconded in that House for a Resolution in these Terms, “That it • appears to this House, that such a great Man (naming him] • had been guilty of several heinous and fraudulent Praca
tices, &c.' That this was the Question as first moved ; but the Friends of that great Man, in order to defeat the Question by rendering it ridiculous, proposed that the Words, it appears to this House, should by way of Amendment be Jeft out of the Quettion : That upon a Division this Amendment was approved of by a corrupt Majority, and that the Question, so made ridiculous by the Amendment, ftood to that Day upon their journals, as the worthy Gentlemen might see if they pleased ; but that the thus rendering the Question ridiculous, was far from rendering ridiculous those who had at first proposed it: On the contrary, the Ridicule fell upon those, who made the Question ridiculous by their Amendment; and accordingly at the Elections for the very next Parliament, most of them were neglected by their Country, and juftly refused the Honour of continuing any onger the Representatives of the People in that Houfe.'
The Question being at last put upon the Amendment, it was carried in the Negative, by 167 to 106.
Feb. 14. The House being in a Grand Committee on the Debate concerning upply, Mr Andrews mov'd, That the Number of effective La Fuse for
the Yca: 1735.
Anno 8. Geo. II. Men, to be provided for Guards and Garrisons in Great
Britain, Guernsey and Jersey for the Year 1735, be 25,744, including 1815 Invalids, and 555 Men for the Service of
the Highlands. Mr Andrews's Motion was supported by Sir W Yonge.
Sir William Yonge, Col. Bladen, Mr Winnington, Ms Mr Winnington: Horatio Walpole, and Sir Robert Walpole, as follows: Sir R. Walpole. Sir,
• Though we are not as yet any way engaged in the present War, yet such Events may happen, as may make it absolutely necessary for us to engage of one side or the other. The Affair of Poland, which is the only Motive, the only Bone of Contention hitherto publickly avowed, is an Affair this Nation has very little to do with ; but if that should appear not to be the real Motive, or if Success should encourage either Side to extend their Views, the Balance of Power may at last be brought into real Danger; and then, for the Sake of preserving the Liberties of Europe, upon which the Liberties of this Nation will always depend, we must take a principal Share in the War. This Danger may not perhaps be so remote as some People imagine ; which has made his Majesty become a Mediator for reconciling the con. tending Powers, before Conquests of either Side Thall take away all Hopes of Success in that Way; and his Majesty has already pushed his Negociations with so much Vigour, that a Plan of Peace will soon be offer'd ; a Plan so well adapted to the Honour and Interest of all Parties concerned, that whoever refuses it will thereby thew, that their secret Views are more extensive than they have hitherto been declared.
• From hence, Sir, I must conclude, that we shall be very soon able to determine, whether we must engage in the War or not : If that Plan be accepted, then we shall attain our Ends; the Peace of Europe will be restored, the Balance of Power will be preserved, without our engaging in the War, without subjecling this Nation to any Inconvenience, or to any Expence ; but if reasonable Terms should be haughtily rejected by either Side, we must then neceffa. rily take a Share in the War. It is therefore very much our Interest at present, to take every Measure that may contribute towards rendering his Majesty's Endeavours successful; that may contribute towards inducing, or even compelling, every one of the contending Powers to accept of that Plan, which his Majesty, in Conjunction with his Allies, is to offer to them: And, in my Opinion, nothing can contributa more towards these great Ends, than our having such a Standing regular Force, as may convince all Parties that we are in earnest, and that we have it in our Power to alter the Scale whenever we have a Mind. For this Rea1on I can hardly imagine, that any Gentleman in this House will oppose the small Augmentation of our Land-Forces Anno 8. Geo. II.
1734-35. now proposed, when he considers how many Millions we may be obliged to expend, if, by refusing such a seasonable Expence, we hould at last make it necessary to involve ourselves in a heavy War.
• The Prosperity of this Nation, Sir, or at least our Security, depends upon the Tranquility of our Neighbours : While they are at Peace, they will always consume more of our Manufactures than when they are involv'd in Blood and Confusion; and consequently we shall always, in Times of Peace, have a greater Demand for the Manufactures of our Country than in Time of War. Besides, while they continue at Peace, the Balance of Power can be in no Danger, but the Events of War no Nation can depend on; and therefore his Nation among the rest, may be deeply affected by the xtraordinary Success of any one Power in Europe. Let us lot therefore grudge a small Expence, when it may
evidenty contribute towards restoring Peace among our Neighours, upon which our own Prosperity and Security does and lways muft depend.
• Our House is not as yet on Fire, but our Neighbour's is Lll in a Flame ; and then certainly it is Time for us to preare the Engines necessary for preserving our own : These re a powerful Fleet, and a sufficient Body of regular well isciplined Troops, ready to march at the first Word of Command. This, Sir, will give Weight to his Majesty's Negociations, it will make all the Parties concerned give a ue Attention to what may be proposed, by his Majesty's linisters, for restoring the Peace of Europe ; for a Minister, -hose Equipage consists of a large Body of good Troops, ill always be better hearkened to, than one whose Equiage confifts only of a great Number of fine Pages and Celess Footmen.
By agreeing to the Augmentation proposed, we may pect, Sir, that the Parties now at War will be prevented om forming any ambitious Views, either against this Naon or against the Balance of Power ; and if any such iews have already been formed, the Projectors will find emselves under a Necessity of laying them aside ; by which eans we shall be able to restore the Peace of Europe, d establish the future Security of this Nation, without ex, sing ourselves to the Inconveniences, the Misfortunes and e doubtful Events of War. From a contrary Behaviour, - us consider what we are to expect : Will not France and r Allies from thence conclude, that they may go on and nquer ; that they may place upon the Imperial Throne a ince of the House of Bourbon ; and that England is not w, as formerly, apprehenfiye of the growing Power of
Anno 8. Deo. 11. France, or conctrned about the Preservation of a Balance 1734-55.
of Power in Europe. These are Conclusons which, I am fure, no Englishman ought to give them an Opportunity to make ; for the Continuance of the War is a certain Confequence of such Conclusions, and if it fhould continue, we mast engage in it, or we, as well as the reft of Europe, maft submit to be Slaves to the Conqueror. Thus the Danger of not agreeing to what is proposed, is infinitely great ; but in agreeing to it there is no Danger, and the Expence is inconsiderable : If it procures a Re-establishment of the publick Tranquility, the Usefulness of it must be acknowledged by all ; but if it should fail of the Effect defired, it will enable us to join (peedily and with Vigour in the War.
• To me, Sir, it is evident, that the small Expence, now proposed, may prevent an infinite Expence and an infinite Danger; and therefore I maft think we are at prefent fomething in the Case of a Gentleman, suppose in the Ife of Ely, whose Eftate is in great_Danger of being overflowed by the Decay of, or fome Breach in, those Dykes and Mounds which were made to prevent Inundations : In such a Case, suppose the Gentleman's Stewards and Managers should come to him, and tell him of his Danger ; and that the Dykes might then be repaired for a finall Expence, but that one Flood or two might make such a Breach as would cost him near the Value of his Eftate to repair : Would not that Gentleman be very much in the wrong, would he not be mad, not to hearken to such Representations, and put himself to a small immediate Charge, in order to prevent the entire Ruin of his Eftate ?
• Our prefent Case, Sis, is the very fame ; one successful Campaign, cwo or three compleat Victories, would make such a Breach in those Barriers, by which the Liberties of Europe are preserved, as would cost an infinite Treasure and a vafi Effufion of Blood before it could be made up. This is a Danger apparent from the circumstances publickly known ; but there may be particular private Transactions concerted, or now carrying on, which would demonstrate the Necessity of what is now proposed : These his Majesty may probably have discovered ; and from the Experience we have of his Majelty's great Regard for the Ease of his People, we may, I think, conclude, that he would not have proposed to have made any Augmentation of his LandForces, or to have put his Subjects to any additional Charge, . without an evident Neceflity for so doing: I hope therefore Gentlemen will depend upon his Majetty's Wisdom and Conduct in an Afair, which is of such a Nature, as may render it impossible for his Majesty to lay his particular Rea fons before this Houte, without running the Rik of disap