Mr. URBAN,

June 8,
*OFFER to the con-
troverfialifts on the
fubje& of Troy town,
and its real exiftence,
a paffage from Arif-

*****totle. In the en-
virons of Italy, called Calabria,
near Metapontum, there is a ten-
ple of Minerva the Hellenian,
where it is faid the wood-work of
the Trojan horfe is preferved,
which was conftructed by Epeus,
and to which he gave his name."
See Ariftotle on wonderful Rela-
tions, p. 709, folio ed. 1590, Lug-
duni.
S. W.

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Mr. URBAN, Inner Temple, June 1. WAS not informed, till the greater part of laft month had elapfed, that fome remarks had been made in your Magazine on a late publication of mine, intituled, "Animadverfions on the Elements of Chriftian Theology by the Right Reverend George Pretyman, D. D. F. R. S. Lord Bithop of Lincoln, in a Series of Letters addrefled to his Lordship, by William Frend.”

cation. I anfwer, that I have examined the reafons which he has given for this roqueft, have reperufed with the utmost attention the letter to which he objects, and, not feeing any grounds for making a fingle tittle of alteration eish rin the expreflion or the argument, I cannot comply with his wishes. On the contrary, I am the more fully convinced, that what I have written in the abovementioned letter ought to induce the Bishop of Lincoln, and others of his opinion, to correct their mistaken notions of the firft chapter of John's Gospel, and the fecond chapter of Paul's Epistle to the Philippians.

Your namelefs writer does not act fairly either by himself or by your readers. He finds it extraordinary, that I do not give my interpretation of the first chapter of John's Gofpel; not comidering, that I do not profefs in my work to interpret every paflage of Scripture, but to animadvert on the theology of the Bishop of Lincoln, which I have fhewn, by feveral inftances, to be at variance both with the I had not an opportunity of fee- Scriptures and the Articles of the ing the Magazine till the month Church of England. He would had nearly expired; but I am not infinuate, that I had in fome partiforry that my answer has been on cular manner left this chapter to this account delayed, as I can now itself, on account of the supposed reply upon ample confideration to difficulties contained in it; whereas the requeft made to me by your I fee no difficulties at all in it on nameleis writer. He defires me the subject of the fupremacy of God to new-model, or amend, the 16th the Father over all beings, and letter in the abovementioned publi- have given plain reafons for this companied with terrents of rain, and tometimes hail of very large dimenfions. N. B. This day and the day before extremely fultry.-10. Gootberries for the first time this feafon in the Liverpool marke'.—. Blue-bottle fly appears; acacia foliates.-12.. Laylock flowers.-14. The gad-flv attacks cattle.-16. Narcillus flowers.-17. A violent temnest of wind and rain from the N, W. N. B. The wind had backed from the Eaft. 18. Leaves, and even branches of trees, ftrew the ground with the tempeft of yesterday.-2c. Laburnum flowers.-24. Lichen Bowers-29. Walnut foliates. Fall of rain this month 4.10 inches. Evaporation 4.4 inches. Walton, near Liverpool.

J. HOLT.

opinion,

opinion, which your nameless writer has chofen to emit. I fhall take the liberty of fupplying this defect, by tranfcribing a few lines on the first chapter of John's Gospel, which precede his quotation.

"This chapter is confidered as the crux bæreticorum: and the moment a perfon lows, as I do, the first verfe to contain a truth, the retort is inftantly made, How can you then deny that John looked upon Jefus as the Supreme Being? For a very plain reafon, I reply; becaufe John does not fay that Jefus is the Supreme Being; and, if he meant to convey that notion to us, I have no doubt that he would have expreffed it clearly. B. fides, he has told us with what view his book was written, namely, that we should believe Jefus to he the Chrift, the Son of God, and from that Felief fhould poffefs life in his name. But I [here follow the words quoted by the ram clefs writer will not trouble your Lodhip with my explanation of the chap

ter; chapter which makes the diftinc

tion completely between the Supreme Being and ur Saviour; and I fhall content myfelf with a remark or two on your lordship's mode f reasoning."

beginning;" for I take them in
their plain fenfe; and I say, that
all perfons quibble, who give to
thefe plain words the fantastical
meaning of, from all eternity. The
queftion then hinges on this point:
do the words," in the beginning,"
mean a time at a limited diftance
from the prefent time, or do they
not? I fay they do: your name-
leis writer, and many hereticks of
antient and modern days, fay they
do not, I do not approve of the
levity with which your nameleis
writer and others fpeak of the laa-
guage ufed by the Evangelift. The
words which he employs have with
me the weight of infpiration; and
I do not deny that they were un
der the guidance of infpiration.
But, be that queftion as it may,
the Evangelift has ufed the words
" in the beginning:" and, if he
had intended to convey the idea of,
from all eternity, he would have.
ufed the expreffive terms from the
Hebrew idiom by which that idea,
unknown to heathen writers, is
conveyed.

On the pleasure that I feem to have felt in alluding to the Sophs fchools at Cambridge, I have no objection that it fhould be imputed to me; for, who is there, of the abilities and talents which your nameless writer is pleafed to attribute to me, that does not dwell with pleafure on the early years fpent in the groves of Acadenrus? Bishop Pretyman and myself paed with fimilar labour and fimilar boours through thofe fchools; and

It is by no means neceffary that I fheud interpret this chapter; or rather fuch an interpretation was foreign to the main end of my work; for, my readers might have bee verted from the examination of the bishop's errors; and, inftead of exercising their own judgement on the chapter itself, might haye wafted their time, it may be, upon my own errors. The first point is, to fhew perions, that they are wrong; the fecond, to put them on the right read. The firit point I have done; the fecond I fhall not fail in my attempt to do to the utmost of my power, when II with him and every ftudent at fee a difpofition in perfons to return to the right road. I gave, in the periods preceding your writer's quotation, fufficient reafon for my opinion, that the chapter in queftion contained no proof that Jefus is the Supreme Being: and I proceeded to the bithops inode of reafoning, becaufe on that mode depends the opinion which he is fuppofed to have embraced.. I do hot fee that I quibble at all on the meaning of the words In the

Cambridge to exercife their judgement as fairly on facred as we did in thofe fchools on prophane truth; to put out of fight all the honours, riches, and dignities, of the Church, when they examine the word of God; to remember the aweful account they mutt give, if they fubfcribe to human opinions, and do not believe them agreeable to Holy Writ; and to think the Bible worthy of as much ftudy and attention at leaft as the principles of

Sir Ifaac Newton, a question in fi-
nance, or a bill of Inclosure.

I make no other remarks on the expreflion of your hameless writer, "individuality of fubftance," than that it appears to me to be stark nonfenfe, ferving, like many other metaphyfical hard words, to confound the understanding. But, as it is now on the road to oblivion with its brethren Abracadabra, Darii, Baralipton, &c. &c. it would be to wafte the time of your readers to fay a word more on fo ridiculous a fubject.

Your nait lefs writer, who profeftes to "know fome little Greek," is not pleased with my affertion, that our tranflators have erred in rendering the paffage, Philip. ii. 6,

thought it not robbery to be equal with God;" yet I continue to be of the fame opinion; and do not think it worth while to introduce any parade of learning on the subject. He wishes for my explanation of the paffage; that is, he wifhes to be diverted from the main argument, and, instead of adopting the Apofile's reafoning, to quibble about the meaning of a Greek word. I thall not indulge him in fuch a defign; but defire him, and all others who adopt the vulgar erroneous tranflation, to attend to the inference made by the Apoftle, as I have ftated it, and which your nameless writer has chofen to omit.

then cannot poffibly be twifted into your
lordship's meaning: the diftinction is
clearly kept up between the being who
nour."
confers, and the man who receives, how

Having thus taken notice of the objections made by your nameless writer, I fhail obferve only, that I am happy to find that he can spend time on different parts of my work; and I do affure him that, if he produces any more objections, I will

examine them with the utmoft impartiality in my power, and will not be backward to defend my own opinions, as long as they appear to he gives me reafon to believe that me to be right, or to adopt his, if they are founded on truth.

WILLIAM FREND.

Mr. URBAN, Worfley, June 7.
YOUR correfpondent Q. Q.

(P. 435) will find my plan of the "Statistical Hiftory of Gloucefterthire" laid down in my Proposals at the bookfellers; and that it is only to be printed in the manner of "Elegant Extracts." In the property part I fhall, as far as my abi lity and the encouragement I receive enables me to do, follow the great ftandard work, Sir W. Dugdale's Warwickshire, i. e. give all the MS. and record I can procure in addition to Sir R. Atkyns's deat the British Mufeum, Tower, &c. fcent of the manor. His accuracy all the people I have heard give an maintain, in spite of what has been opinion of the matter obftinately faid in British Topography, Willis's Abbeyst, and the advice of Mr. ters), which was, to follow Sir R. Blore (a good judge in these matthrough all his references, and correct his errors. This I will do, however, befides what I have en- · gaged above, if I have encouragement fufficient to enable me to fpare my time. Wherever, in the courfe of the furvey, I find an object, which I cannot explain, I thall have a copy taken by drawing

"Fortunately, there is no need for all this parade of learning; for Paul himfelf fets it out of the queftion at once, by the inference which he has drawn from the high character of Chrift contrafted with his humility. Whatever was the form, whatever was the opinion of Jefus, he acted well; he received the due reward for his meritorious fervices. On this account, the Apoftle tells us, God hath appointed that all men fhould fubmit to the authority of Chrift, fhould confefs Chrift to be Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The Apoftle does not fay, that all men should confels Jefus to be God equal to God the Father. No fuch thought entered into his mind: and he makes the fame diftinction here as in another place, 'To us there is one God, even the Father, and one Lord Jefus Chrift, our Saviour. The paffage combe, and Lel. Coll. VI. 165, 6, ed. 1774

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